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== Information ==
 
== Information ==
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* '''TODO:''' Define a date
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* Mardi 11 décembre 2012 à 20h
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* Date picking http://framadate.org/c6eld5ydzmws7l74
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* PV:
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** Resume: [[File:FIXME-AG-2012.pdf]]
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** Quizz: [[:File:FIXME-Quizz-2012.png]]
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** Memberships: [[:File:FIXME-Members.png]]
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** Cash account: [[:File:FIXME-Caisse.png]]
  
 
== To discuss ==
 
== To discuss ==
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=== Comitee election ===
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* Président: Crazygolem
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* Secrétaire: Nemen
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* Caissier: Prosouth
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* Logistique: Rorist
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=== Finance ===
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* Accounts balance and presentation
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* Transparency on the account (regular point?)
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* Budget for buying stuff, budget in general.
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* Taskforce groups
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** Create a group for getting public subventions, being of [[Utilité_publique|public utility]]
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** New local (search, subventions, ...)
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* Set up new payment methods (for membership, donations, burgers, etc)
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** Open a Paypal account
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** Set up a Bitcoin wallet<ref>Use QR codes to pay for things from the fridge, à la PTL</ref>
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** Fix credit card reader to accept cc's and postfinance (?)
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=== Membership ===
 
=== Membership ===
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* key for the hackerspace more or less access ?
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* Align membership on January, so everyone has the same period (easier to manage)
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** Should we put a new way to elect exceptions ?
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* Remove subscription fees (30chf)
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* More members with the keys ?
 
* Add a new membership, see [[Meeting_20120914]]
 
* Add a new membership, see [[Meeting_20120914]]
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** 20.-/month (no student/avs/ai discount ?)
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* Should we put a new way to elect exceptions ? (like gcmalloc/nemen)
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** Key subject to peer validation (3 keys members giving approval)
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* Should we continue with such exceptions ?
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** Key revocation if not used ?
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* Should we add a subscription/donation form with Paypal on Fixme website?
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==== Proposition 1 (Rorist) ====
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* 25.-/month (300.-/year)
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* Key validation by 3 keys members
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==== Proposition 2 (Nemen) ====
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* 30.-/monthly or 330.-/yearly (1 free month)
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* -50% for students
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* Key validation by 2 keys members
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==== Proposition 3 (Crazygolem) ====
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'''Fee 1''': CHF 100 / month
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* One free Key
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* One free locker upon request
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* Priority over ''Fee 2'' members for lockers
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'''Fee 2''': CHF 30 / month
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* Key
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** Only if validated by 5 members that have a key (validation is revocable: ''chain of trust'' model)
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* Locker
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** If available
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** Locker attribution can be revoked (with prior notice) for ''Fee 1'' members
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'''Fee 3''': CHF 10 / month
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* No key
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* No locker
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'''Packs & Bonuses'''
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* Key: CHF 10 / month
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* Locker: CHF 10 / month
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* 50% on fees (not on packs) for students
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==== Proposition 4 (Prosouth) ====
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* 35.- / month and each new active member you bring to the hackerspace you get 5chf off
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* Ask people who don't pay why they don't pay and ask them if they want to cancel their membership
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==== Proposition 5 (Sasha) ====
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* 5 CHF/Month - Tier 1 (same as current)
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* 25 CHF/Month - Tier 2 + Key
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To advance to new tier, 2 members of higher tier(s) must advance you. For students the discount is 50%. Also set up automatic payment reminders via email, for easy payment via PayPal, Postfinance, BTC and anything else of use, allowing for easier management of monthly payments.
  
 
=== Other stuff ===
 
=== Other stuff ===
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* Results of the [[roles]], what to do with all this stuff that has to be done ?
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* Being member of the CCC-CH https://www.ccczh.ch/CCC-CH/Statuten
 
* License for the wiki:
 
* License for the wiki:
 
** Public Domaine like ? http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/
 
** Public Domaine like ? http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/
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* What is the commitee for ?  
 
* What is the commitee for ?  
 
* status of the actual role [Roles], speak about delegation and responsability of the members.
 
* status of the actual role [Roles], speak about delegation and responsability of the members.
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* Transparency on the account we have, what can we give to tools ? what can we give to lovering the cotisation.
 
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* Budget for buying stuff, budget in general.
 
 
* Can we transfer the bail to fixme as an association and not to a single person ? Would thermibel be ok with it ?
 
* Can we transfer the bail to fixme as an association and not to a single person ? Would thermibel be ok with it ?
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* We must be more clear of how we work and what we do (do-ocracy, providing a space, people can/must organize stuff and they'll get support,  ...)
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* Gcmalloc must send a mail to some music website
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* Encourage and advertise do-ocracy
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** https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Do-ocracy
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** http://www.communitywiki.org/DoOcracy
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* Security/integrity (first aid kit, blouse, etc)
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** Fire extinguisher? Do we have one?
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** Simple safety procedures clearly visible - e.g. switch of power strip at electronics bench, turn off soldering iron when not in use
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* Is the lighting sufficient?
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== Bonus (to be discussed outsite an AG (ML, ...) ==
 
== Bonus (to be discussed outsite an AG (ML, ...) ==
 
* fixme.ch certificate and general security concern.
 
* fixme.ch certificate and general security concern.
 
* General discussion about the internal infrastructure and migration on the internal server.
 
* General discussion about the internal infrastructure and migration on the internal server.
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==References/notes==
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<references/>

Latest revision as of 18:19, 24 December 2012

Information

To discuss

Comitee election

  • Président: Crazygolem
  • Secrétaire: Nemen
  • Caissier: Prosouth
  • Logistique: Rorist

Finance

  • Accounts balance and presentation
  • Transparency on the account (regular point?)
  • Budget for buying stuff, budget in general.
  • Taskforce groups
    • Create a group for getting public subventions, being of public utility
    • New local (search, subventions, ...)
  • Set up new payment methods (for membership, donations, burgers, etc)
    • Open a Paypal account
    • Set up a Bitcoin wallet<ref>Use QR codes to pay for things from the fridge, à la PTL</ref>
    • Fix credit card reader to accept cc's and postfinance (?)

Membership

  • Align membership on January, so everyone has the same period (easier to manage)
  • Remove subscription fees (30chf)
  • More members with the keys ?
  • Add a new membership, see Meeting_20120914
  • Should we put a new way to elect exceptions ? (like gcmalloc/nemen)
  • Should we continue with such exceptions ?
  • Should we add a subscription/donation form with Paypal on Fixme website?

Proposition 1 (Rorist)

  • 25.-/month (300.-/year)
  • Key validation by 3 keys members

Proposition 2 (Nemen)

  • 30.-/monthly or 330.-/yearly (1 free month)
  • -50% for students
  • Key validation by 2 keys members

Proposition 3 (Crazygolem)

Fee 1: CHF 100 / month

  • One free Key
  • One free locker upon request
  • Priority over Fee 2 members for lockers

Fee 2: CHF 30 / month

  • Key
    • Only if validated by 5 members that have a key (validation is revocable: chain of trust model)
  • Locker
    • If available
    • Locker attribution can be revoked (with prior notice) for Fee 1 members

Fee 3: CHF 10 / month

  • No key
  • No locker

Packs & Bonuses

  • Key: CHF 10 / month
  • Locker: CHF 10 / month
  • 50% on fees (not on packs) for students

Proposition 4 (Prosouth)

  • 35.- / month and each new active member you bring to the hackerspace you get 5chf off
  • Ask people who don't pay why they don't pay and ask them if they want to cancel their membership

Proposition 5 (Sasha)

  • 5 CHF/Month - Tier 1 (same as current)
  • 25 CHF/Month - Tier 2 + Key

To advance to new tier, 2 members of higher tier(s) must advance you. For students the discount is 50%. Also set up automatic payment reminders via email, for easy payment via PayPal, Postfinance, BTC and anything else of use, allowing for easier management of monthly payments.

Other stuff

  • Results of the roles, what to do with all this stuff that has to be done ?
  • Being member of the CCC-CH https://www.ccczh.ch/CCC-CH/Statuten
  • License for the wiki:
  • Licenses for work done for FIXME (Logo, flyers, etc)
    • CC licenses too restrictive ? (BY clause)
    • Require at least separate and more flexible license for FIXME (along with default CC / other license)
  • What is the commitee for ?
  • status of the actual role [Roles], speak about delegation and responsability of the members.
  • Can we transfer the bail to fixme as an association and not to a single person ? Would thermibel be ok with it ?
  • We must be more clear of how we work and what we do (do-ocracy, providing a space, people can/must organize stuff and they'll get support, ...)
  • Gcmalloc must send a mail to some music website
  • Encourage and advertise do-ocracy
  • Security/integrity (first aid kit, blouse, etc)
    • Fire extinguisher? Do we have one?
    • Simple safety procedures clearly visible - e.g. switch of power strip at electronics bench, turn off soldering iron when not in use
  • Is the lighting sufficient?


Bonus (to be discussed outsite an AG (ML, ...)

  • fixme.ch certificate and general security concern.
  • General discussion about the internal infrastructure and migration on the internal server.

References/notes

<references/>

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