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== Information == | == Information == | ||
− | The Chaos Communication Camp will take place in [https://www.openstreetmap.org/ | + | The Chaos Communication Camp will take place in [https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/53.03140/13.30537 Ziegeleipark Mildenberg] between August 15th to August 19th 2023. |
− | * WIKI: | + | * WIKI: https://events.ccc.de/camp/2023/infos/index.html |
− | * | + | * HUB: https://events.ccc.de/camp/2023/hub/camp23/en/index |
− | * | + | * SCHEDULE: https://pretalx.c3voc.de/camp2023/schedule/ |
− | + | ||
− | + | ||
+ | * BADGE: | ||
+ | ** Article/Demo: https://events.ccc.de/2023/06/05/camp23-the-flow3r-badge/ | ||
+ | ** Documentation: https://docs.flow3r.garden/ | ||
+ | ** Repo: https://git.flow3r.garden/flow3r/ | ||
+ | * MAP: | ||
+ | ** https://map.events.ccc.de | ||
+ | ** Our village https://map.events.ccc.de/camp/2023/map/#19.54/53.0324599/13.306674 | ||
+ | * BLOG: https://events.ccc.de/2023/04/21/camp2023/#eng-camp2023-intro | ||
+ | * MERCH: https://tickets.events.ccc.de/camp2023-merch/ | ||
+ | * METEO: https://www.meteoblue.com/fr/meteo/14-jours/mildenberg_allemagne_2871140 | ||
+ | * Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/search?q=%23cccamp23&src=typed_query&f=live | ||
== FIXME Camp: Lemanicus == | == FIXME Camp: Lemanicus == | ||
− | Discussion is happening on [[Chat]] channel [https://chat.fixme.ch/fixme/channels/20_cccamp2023 20_cccamp2023] | + | * Backoffice Village configuration: https://events.ccc.de/camp/2023/hub/backoffice/assembly/d9ca3360-8cef-4840-8343-b58ae92d203e |
+ | * Discussion is happening on [[Chat]] channel [https://chat.fixme.ch/fixme/channels/20_cccamp2023 20_cccamp2023] | ||
We plan to bring the following equipment with us: | We plan to bring the following equipment with us: | ||
− | + | ||
− | + | === Infra Elec === | |
− | + | {| class="wikitable" | |
− | * | + | |+ |
+ | ! Item !! Minimum Need!! who brings ? (how many ?) | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | Long cables + adapters || 1 || Francois (1-2) | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | Multiprise || 5 (1 per table) || Mc (1), Rorist (1 big), PorCus (1x 3 plug, 1x power cube), Tsundoku 3 (2 Fr + 1 big CH), Polto 2 mega multiprises CH | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | Rallonges || 3? || Mc (1) - Tsundoku 1 (4-prises long. 10-15m) | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | Lighting || 1 || Mc (baladeuse), Tsundoku 3, 10m LEDs (BinaryBrain) | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 1 Large TV + 1 Small screen || || Tsundoku | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | adaptateurs prises EU-> cable CH || 3 || Polto 3 | ||
+ | |} | ||
+ | |||
+ | === Infra Réseau === | ||
+ | {| class="wikitable" | ||
+ | |+ | ||
+ | ! Item !! Minimum Need!! who brings ? (how many ?) | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | Switch || 1 || Cisco WS-C2960S-48TD-L (48xGE + 2xSFP+)(PorCus, transport by MC), Tsundoku (1) Netgear GS 105 | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | Fibre optique + ethernet 30M || N/A || 1x30M LC Duplex Armored + 2xSFP+ 10GLR + 30M CAT7 Copper + SPF+ 10G Copper (PorCus, transport by MC) | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | PC Engine APU 1 ou 2 || N/A || PorCus - Nat box pour se faire un sub lan " protégé " des haxors du camp (avec quelques cable ETH court) | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | RJ45 || 1 long (datenklo link) || 3 - Tsundoku - 10m - cat 5 blindée - cat 6 blindée - 5m - cat 5 | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | TPLink - 4G+ Archer MR600 || || Tsundoku | ||
+ | |} | ||
+ | |||
+ | === Infra radio === | ||
+ | {| class="wikitable" | ||
+ | |+ | ||
+ | ! Item !! Minimum Need !! who brings ? (how many ?) | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | Ham radio gear || 1 || Mc (HF/VHF/UHF transceiver, antenna= | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | SDR stuff || ? || Mc (various RX and TRX), Francois (a box full of stuff like Rad10 badges, HackRF, Antennas) | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 2 WalkieTalkie Motorola || ? || Tsundoku | ||
+ | |} | ||
+ | |||
+ | === Cooking, beverage & co infra === | ||
+ | {| class="wikitable" | ||
+ | |+ | ||
+ | ! Item !! Minimum Need!! who brings ? (how many ?) | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | Réchaud gaz || 1 || Tsundoku - 1 (+1) | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | Cafetière || 1 || Tsundoku - 1 | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | Water tank || 1 || Tsundoku - 1 | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | Glacière || 1 || Tsundoku - 1 | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | Plaque induction/gaz || x || ??? | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | Poele/Casserole || 4 || 2 gamelles en metal (rorist) | ||
+ | |} | ||
+ | |||
+ | === Other === | ||
+ | |||
+ | * SD Card for the flow3r badge | ||
+ | * "Cyber" music amp (ded x_x) | ||
+ | * A "fixed" DECT phone for the Village (who can bring one?) | ||
+ | * Orbital Portable | ||
+ | * Board games | ||
+ | ** The Game (Rorist) | ||
+ | * Video Projector? (TV) Screen? (1- Tsundoku) | ||
+ | * Something super swiss for visitors, like Cenovis or Ragusa :D | ||
* ... | * ... | ||
+ | * Music | ||
+ | {| class="wikitable" | ||
+ | |+ | ||
+ | ! Item !! Who brings | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | Stuff to play with the Badge: Mixer, cables, midi pads, little speaker, recorder, ... || Rorist | ||
+ | |} | ||
+ | * Other | ||
+ | {| class="wikitable" | ||
+ | |+ | ||
+ | ! Who brings !! ESP/Arduino !! Rpi !! Soldering Iron !! Drill !! screwdrivers || pliers | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | BinaryBrain || 3 || 1 || 1 || if nobody brings one and I have space || Yes || Yes, small | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | Rorist || || || 1 || 1, there's never enough drills !!! || Yes || Yes | ||
+ | |} | ||
+ | |||
+ | === To order === | ||
+ | |||
+ | https://tickets.events.ccc.de/camp2023-villages/ | ||
+ | |||
+ | * 1x Standard Tent Small 6x6 (€ 1450) | ||
+ | * 5x tables (€ 150) | ||
+ | * 20x chairs (€ 100) | ||
+ | * <s>1x Cutlery set (25x knife, 25x fork, 25x spoon) (€ 55)</s> | ||
+ | * 1x 25 Dinner Plates (€ 55) | ||
+ | |||
+ | TOTAL: € 1755 | ||
− | === | + | ==== Who's gonna pay ==== |
− | = | + | * Rorist, Infraly (500Eur), Hodling (500Eur), BinaryBrain, Marv, PorCus (200Eur), Grendup (Damien), ... |
+ | * Total per person XXX/YY=Z | ||
== Phone numbers == | == Phone numbers == | ||
Line 30: | Line 141: | ||
* https://guru3.eventphone.de/ | * https://guru3.eventphone.de/ | ||
* Number generator https://binarybrain.github.io/4-numbers-viz/ | * Number generator https://binarybrain.github.io/4-numbers-viz/ | ||
+ | |||
+ | ==== Phonebook ==== | ||
+ | |||
+ | |||
+ | {| class="wikitable" | ||
+ | |+ | ||
+ | ! Name !! Number !! Type | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | Lemanicus || 7200 || DECT | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | BinaryBrain || 7201 || DECT | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | BinaryBrain || 7202 || GSM | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | Kewin || 7203 || | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | François ||7207 || | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | MC || 7298 || | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | Sasha || 7274 || | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | Will/PorCus || 2613 || DECT | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | [[User:Rorist|Rorist]] || 7205 || GSM | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | marv || 7242 || | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | Polto || 7277 || | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |} | ||
+ | |||
+ | == Projects == | ||
+ | |||
+ | * Teletext forever ! Continuation of [[Teletext]] workshop and transmit an alternative teletext set over the world via shortwaves or on the camp on VHF/UHF or any other mean. | ||
+ | |||
+ | === Flow3r Badge === | ||
+ | |||
+ | Apps from people in the camp | ||
+ | |||
+ | * Simon Game (Protectator) https://git.flow3r.garden/Protectator/simon | ||
+ | * Eye (Theo) https://git.flow3r.garden/theo/another-eye | ||
+ | * Endless Sequencer (Rorist) https://git.flow3r.garden/rorist/endless-sequencer | ||
+ | * DVD Bouncing (Mborg) https://git.flow3r.garden/mborges/dvd_bouncing | ||
+ | * Telet3xt (BinaryBrain/Marv) https://git.fixme.ch/BinaryBrain/telet3xt | ||
== Tickets == | == Tickets == | ||
− | * Prices: | + | * Prices: 380 EUR for a Standard Ticket |
* Vouchers: There will be NO vouchers this year https://events.ccc.de/2023/05/08/prepresale/ | * Vouchers: There will be NO vouchers this year https://events.ccc.de/2023/05/08/prepresale/ | ||
− | === Who has a ticket ? === | + | === Who has a ticket to sell ? === |
− | We took extra tickets to distributes to fixme community. Here is who has | + | We took extra tickets to distributes to the fixme community. Here is who has tickets to sell and to who they have been sold to. |
{| class="wikitable" | {| class="wikitable" | ||
|+ | |+ | ||
− | ! Name !! | + | ! Name !! Tickets available!! Given to |
|- | |- | ||
− | | [[User:Rorist|Rorist]] || | + | | [[User:Rorist|Rorist]] || 0 || Pierre-Loic, Beug, Luk |
|- | |- | ||
− | | Francois || | + | | Francois || 0 || BinaryBrain, Epic Feihl, tsundokusuisse, D4m13n |
|- | |- | ||
− | | | + | | [[User:PorCus|PorCus]] || 0 || Protectator, Grendup |
+ | |- | ||
+ | | [[User:mc|Mathias]] || 0 || Boris | ||
|- | |- | ||
|} | |} | ||
== Transport == | == Transport == | ||
+ | |||
+ | {| class="wikitable" | ||
+ | |+ | ||
+ | ! Name !! Car/Plane/Train !! Going !! Coming back | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | [[User:PorCus|PorCus]] + Grendup || Plane, stuff in car || LX2809 & LX966 14.08 || LH 1953 & LH 9444 19.08 | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | [[User:Francois|Francois]]+1 || car || 13.08 || 19.08 | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | [[User:Rorist|Rorist]] || car || 13.08 || 19.08 | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | [[User:Sasha|Sasha]]+1 || Plane + Train || EZS1187 12.08 || NJ408 19.08 | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | [[User:Binary_Brain|Binary Brain]]+1 || Train or Car || ??? || ??? | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | marv+mborg || Night train || 13-14 || 26-27 | ||
+ | |} | ||
+ | |||
+ | ===Transport statistics (CO2,..)=== | ||
+ | |||
+ | ====Plane from Geneva==== | ||
+ | |||
+ | with stops: | ||
+ | *GVA-ZRH-BER: 547kgCO2/person (source myclimate.org) | ||
+ | *BER-MUC-GVA:566kgCO2/person | ||
+ | * Cost : ~300CHF/person | ||
+ | *Total: '''1113kgCO2/person''' | ||
+ | |||
+ | Direct flight: | ||
+ | *GVA-BER: '''392Kg/CO2/person''' | ||
+ | |||
+ | ====Electric car from Geneva==== | ||
+ | |||
+ | * 2370km roundtrip | ||
+ | * ~400kWh of electricity for round trip | ||
+ | |||
+ | |||
+ | {| class="wikitable" | ||
+ | |+ | ||
+ | ! Date/Time/Place !! kWh added !! gCO2/kWh* !! kgCO2 !! Cost | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 13.8.2023/4pm/Supercharger Offenbourg || 55 || 260 || 14.3 || 22€ | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 13.8.2023/8pm/Supercharger Alsfeld || 62 || 317 || 19.654 || 23.56€ | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 14.8.2023/2pm/Supercharger Irxleben || 59 || 375 || 22.125 || 22.42€ | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 14.8.2023/7pm/friend house near camp || 32 || 375 || 12 || 0 | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 19.8.2023/5pm/Supercharger Beelitz || 30 || 263 || 7.89 || 10.20€ | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 19.8.2023/7pm/Supercharger Muchenberg || 40 || 380 || 15.2 || 15.20€ | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 20.8.2023/11am/Supercharger Herrieden || 66 || 190 || 12.54 || 23.76€ | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 20.8.2023/3pm/Supercharger Emeldingen || 62 || 197 || 12.214 || 22.94€ | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! TOTALS !! 406 !! !! 116kg !! 124.88€ | ||
+ | |} | ||
+ | * *Source: https://app.electricitymaps.com/zone/DE | ||
+ | |||
+ | 2 person transported: '''58kgCO2/person''' | ||
+ | |||
+ | ====Hybrid car from Lausanne==== | ||
+ | |||
+ | *2260km roundtrip | ||
+ | *Consumption: 10liter benzin/100km | ||
+ | * 2.3kgCO2/litre benzine | ||
+ | * 226 liter benzin => 519.8kg CO2 | ||
+ | * 3 person transported => '''173.3kgCO2/person''' | ||
+ | |||
+ | ====Train==== | ||
+ | |||
+ | *Lausanne-Berlin: 0.23kgCO2/person, roundtrip '''0.46kgCO2/person''' | ||
+ | Source: https://www.umweltmobilcheck.de/ (DB claims to be using only green energy .... what about production when renewables are low? train don't stop?!) | ||
+ | |||
+ | *Computation using an average of 32g/CO2 per km ([https://www.mein-klimaschutz.de/unterwegs/a/einkauf/welches-verkehrsmittel-verursacht-im-vergleich-mehr-co2/ source] ): 2300km x 0.032gCO2/km = '''73.6kgCO2/person''' | ||
== See also == | == See also == |
Latest revision as of 09:57, 25 August 2023
Contents
Information
The Chaos Communication Camp will take place in Ziegeleipark Mildenberg between August 15th to August 19th 2023.
- WIKI: https://events.ccc.de/camp/2023/infos/index.html
- HUB: https://events.ccc.de/camp/2023/hub/camp23/en/index
- SCHEDULE: https://pretalx.c3voc.de/camp2023/schedule/
- BADGE:
- Article/Demo: https://events.ccc.de/2023/06/05/camp23-the-flow3r-badge/
- Documentation: https://docs.flow3r.garden/
- Repo: https://git.flow3r.garden/flow3r/
- MAP:
- BLOG: https://events.ccc.de/2023/04/21/camp2023/#eng-camp2023-intro
- MERCH: https://tickets.events.ccc.de/camp2023-merch/
- METEO: https://www.meteoblue.com/fr/meteo/14-jours/mildenberg_allemagne_2871140
- Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/search?q=%23cccamp23&src=typed_query&f=live
FIXME Camp: Lemanicus
- Backoffice Village configuration: https://events.ccc.de/camp/2023/hub/backoffice/assembly/d9ca3360-8cef-4840-8343-b58ae92d203e
- Discussion is happening on Chat channel 20_cccamp2023
We plan to bring the following equipment with us:
Infra Elec
Item | Minimum Need | who brings ? (how many ?) |
---|---|---|
Long cables + adapters | 1 | Francois (1-2) |
Multiprise | 5 (1 per table) | Mc (1), Rorist (1 big), PorCus (1x 3 plug, 1x power cube), Tsundoku 3 (2 Fr + 1 big CH), Polto 2 mega multiprises CH |
Rallonges | 3? | Mc (1) - Tsundoku 1 (4-prises long. 10-15m) |
Lighting | 1 | Mc (baladeuse), Tsundoku 3, 10m LEDs (BinaryBrain) |
1 Large TV + 1 Small screen | Tsundoku | |
adaptateurs prises EU-> cable CH | 3 | Polto 3 |
Infra Réseau
Item | Minimum Need | who brings ? (how many ?) |
---|---|---|
Switch | 1 | Cisco WS-C2960S-48TD-L (48xGE + 2xSFP+)(PorCus, transport by MC), Tsundoku (1) Netgear GS 105 |
Fibre optique + ethernet 30M | N/A | 1x30M LC Duplex Armored + 2xSFP+ 10GLR + 30M CAT7 Copper + SPF+ 10G Copper (PorCus, transport by MC) |
PC Engine APU 1 ou 2 | N/A | PorCus - Nat box pour se faire un sub lan " protégé " des haxors du camp (avec quelques cable ETH court) |
RJ45 | 1 long (datenklo link) | 3 - Tsundoku - 10m - cat 5 blindée - cat 6 blindée - 5m - cat 5 |
TPLink - 4G+ Archer MR600 | Tsundoku |
Infra radio
Item | Minimum Need | who brings ? (how many ?) |
---|---|---|
Ham radio gear | 1 | Mc (HF/VHF/UHF transceiver, antenna= |
SDR stuff | ? | Mc (various RX and TRX), Francois (a box full of stuff like Rad10 badges, HackRF, Antennas) |
2 WalkieTalkie Motorola | ? | Tsundoku |
Cooking, beverage & co infra
Item | Minimum Need | who brings ? (how many ?) |
---|---|---|
Réchaud gaz | 1 | Tsundoku - 1 (+1) |
Cafetière | 1 | Tsundoku - 1 |
Water tank | 1 | Tsundoku - 1 |
Glacière | 1 | Tsundoku - 1 |
Plaque induction/gaz | x | ??? |
Poele/Casserole | 4 | 2 gamelles en metal (rorist) |
Other
- SD Card for the flow3r badge
- "Cyber" music amp (ded x_x)
- A "fixed" DECT phone for the Village (who can bring one?)
- Orbital Portable
- Board games
- The Game (Rorist)
- Video Projector? (TV) Screen? (1- Tsundoku)
- Something super swiss for visitors, like Cenovis or Ragusa :D
- ...
- Music
Item | Who brings |
---|---|
Stuff to play with the Badge: Mixer, cables, midi pads, little speaker, recorder, ... | Rorist |
- Other
Who brings | ESP/Arduino | Rpi | Soldering Iron | Drill | screwdrivers | pliers |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
BinaryBrain | 3 | 1 | 1 | if nobody brings one and I have space | Yes | Yes, small |
Rorist | 1 | 1, there's never enough drills !!! | Yes | Yes |
To order
https://tickets.events.ccc.de/camp2023-villages/
- 1x Standard Tent Small 6x6 (€ 1450)
- 5x tables (€ 150)
- 20x chairs (€ 100)
-
1x Cutlery set (25x knife, 25x fork, 25x spoon) (€ 55) - 1x 25 Dinner Plates (€ 55)
TOTAL: € 1755
Who's gonna pay
- Rorist, Infraly (500Eur), Hodling (500Eur), BinaryBrain, Marv, PorCus (200Eur), Grendup (Damien), ...
- Total per person XXX/YY=Z
Phone numbers
- https://guru3.eventphone.de/
- Number generator https://binarybrain.github.io/4-numbers-viz/
Phonebook
Name | Number | Type |
---|---|---|
Lemanicus | 7200 | DECT |
BinaryBrain | 7201 | DECT |
BinaryBrain | 7202 | GSM |
Kewin | 7203 | |
François | 7207 | |
MC | 7298 | |
Sasha | 7274 | |
Will/PorCus | 2613 | DECT |
Rorist | 7205 | GSM |
marv | 7242 | |
Polto | 7277 |
Projects
- Teletext forever ! Continuation of Teletext workshop and transmit an alternative teletext set over the world via shortwaves or on the camp on VHF/UHF or any other mean.
Flow3r Badge
Apps from people in the camp
- Simon Game (Protectator) https://git.flow3r.garden/Protectator/simon
- Eye (Theo) https://git.flow3r.garden/theo/another-eye
- Endless Sequencer (Rorist) https://git.flow3r.garden/rorist/endless-sequencer
- DVD Bouncing (Mborg) https://git.flow3r.garden/mborges/dvd_bouncing
- Telet3xt (BinaryBrain/Marv) https://git.fixme.ch/BinaryBrain/telet3xt
Tickets
- Prices: 380 EUR for a Standard Ticket
- Vouchers: There will be NO vouchers this year https://events.ccc.de/2023/05/08/prepresale/
Who has a ticket to sell ?
We took extra tickets to distributes to the fixme community. Here is who has tickets to sell and to who they have been sold to.
Name | Tickets available | Given to |
---|---|---|
Rorist | 0 | Pierre-Loic, Beug, Luk |
Francois | 0 | BinaryBrain, Epic Feihl, tsundokusuisse, D4m13n |
PorCus | 0 | Protectator, Grendup |
Mathias | 0 | Boris |
Transport
Name | Car/Plane/Train | Going | Coming back |
---|---|---|---|
PorCus + Grendup | Plane, stuff in car | LX2809 & LX966 14.08 | LH 1953 & LH 9444 19.08 |
Francois+1 | car | 13.08 | 19.08 |
Rorist | car | 13.08 | 19.08 |
Sasha+1 | Plane + Train | EZS1187 12.08 | NJ408 19.08 |
Binary Brain+1 | Train or Car | ??? | ??? |
marv+mborg | Night train | 13-14 | 26-27 |
Transport statistics (CO2,..)
Plane from Geneva
with stops:
- GVA-ZRH-BER: 547kgCO2/person (source myclimate.org)
- BER-MUC-GVA:566kgCO2/person
- Cost : ~300CHF/person
- Total: 1113kgCO2/person
Direct flight:
- GVA-BER: 392Kg/CO2/person
Electric car from Geneva
- 2370km roundtrip
- ~400kWh of electricity for round trip
Date/Time/Place | kWh added | gCO2/kWh* | kgCO2 | Cost |
---|---|---|---|---|
13.8.2023/4pm/Supercharger Offenbourg | 55 | 260 | 14.3 | 22€ |
13.8.2023/8pm/Supercharger Alsfeld | 62 | 317 | 19.654 | 23.56€ |
14.8.2023/2pm/Supercharger Irxleben | 59 | 375 | 22.125 | 22.42€ |
14.8.2023/7pm/friend house near camp | 32 | 375 | 12 | 0 |
19.8.2023/5pm/Supercharger Beelitz | 30 | 263 | 7.89 | 10.20€ |
19.8.2023/7pm/Supercharger Muchenberg | 40 | 380 | 15.2 | 15.20€ |
20.8.2023/11am/Supercharger Herrieden | 66 | 190 | 12.54 | 23.76€ |
20.8.2023/3pm/Supercharger Emeldingen | 62 | 197 | 12.214 | 22.94€ |
TOTALS | 406 | 116kg | 124.88€ |
2 person transported: 58kgCO2/person
Hybrid car from Lausanne
- 2260km roundtrip
- Consumption: 10liter benzin/100km
- 2.3kgCO2/litre benzine
- 226 liter benzin => 519.8kg CO2
- 3 person transported => 173.3kgCO2/person
Train
- Lausanne-Berlin: 0.23kgCO2/person, roundtrip 0.46kgCO2/person
Source: https://www.umweltmobilcheck.de/ (DB claims to be using only green energy .... what about production when renewables are low? train don't stop?!)
- Computation using an average of 32g/CO2 per km (source ): 2300km x 0.032gCO2/km = 73.6kgCO2/person