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=== People&Multicopter ===
 
=== People&Multicopter ===
 
* Rorist:  
 
* Rorist:  
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** Vortex 285
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** [https://ecalc.ch/xcoptercalc.php?lang=en&lang=en&rotornumber=4&config=flat&frame=255&tiltlimit=90&weight=700&calc=auw&elevation=500&airtemp=25&qnh=1013&batteries=lipo_2200mah_-_65/100c&chargestate=0&s=4&p=1&battdisc=0.85&esc=max_40a&motor=0&type=0&motorkv=1600&motorio=1.3&motorvio=10&motorlimit=950&motorlimittype=w&motorri=0.055&motorlength=21&motorpoles=14&motorweight=36&cooling=good&gear=1&propeller=0&pconst=1.2&tconst=1.0&proptwist=0&diameter=7&pitch=4&blades=2&project=...insert%20your%20project%20name... Skull And Drones - Rampage 255  7'']
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** [http://www.ecalc.ch/xcoptercalc.php?ecalc&lang=en&cooling=medium&rotornumber=4&config=flat&frame=210&tiltlimit=90&weight=500&calc=auw&elevation=500&airtemp=25&qnh=1013&batteries=0&battcap=1350&battri=0.0107&battv=3.7&battccont=65&battcmax=130&battweight=38&chargestate=0&s=4&p=1&battdisc=0.85&esc=0&esccont=30&escmax=45&escri=0.006&escweight=15&motor=cobra&type=0&motorkv=2300&motorio=0.66&motorvio=8&motorlimit=262&motorlimittype=w&motorri=0.084&motorlength=14.2&motorpoles=14&motorweight=24.6&gear=1&propeller=0&pconst=1.13&tconst=1.0&proptwist=0&diameter=5&pitch=4&blades=3&project=RacingQuad2016 QAV 210 w/ Cobra] [https://www.ecalc.ch/xcoptercalc.php?ecalc&lang=en&cooling=medium&rotornumber=4&config=flat&frame=210&tiltlimit=90&weight=500&calc=auw&elevation=500&airtemp=25&qnh=1013&batteries=0&battcap=1300&battri=0.0107&battv=3.7&battccont=75&battcmax=130&battweight=38&chargestate=0&s=4&p=1&battdisc=0.85&esc=0&esccont=25&escmax=45&escri=0.006&escweight=15&motor=cobra&acci=1&type=0&motorkv=2345&motorio=1.57&motorvio=16.09&motorlimit=450&motorlimittype=w&motorri=0.084&motorlength=23&motorpoles=14&motorweight=28.5&gear=1&propeller=hqprop&diameter=5&pitch=4&blades=3&project=RacingQuad2017 QAV210 w/ TBS Silk]
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** Xhover Win 5 w/ Xnova 2206/2450 and Hobbywing stack
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** [http://www.ecalc.ch/xcoptercalc.php?ecalc&lang=en&cooling=medium&rotornumber=4&config=flat&frame=210&tiltlimit=90&weight=500&calc=auw&elevation=500&airtemp=25&qnh=1013&batteries=0&battcap=1350&battri=0.0107&battv=3.7&battccont=65&battcmax=130&battweight=38&chargestate=0&s=4&p=1&battdisc=0.85&esc=0&esccont=30&escmax=45&escri=0.006&escweight=15&motor=cobra&type=0&motorkv=2300&motorio=0.66&motorvio=8&motorlimit=262&motorlimittype=w&motorri=0.084&motorlength=14.2&motorpoles=14&motorweight=24.6&gear=1&propeller=0&pconst=1.13&tconst=1.0&proptwist=0&diameter=5&pitch=4&blades=3&project=RacingQuad2016 QAV 210 w/ Cobra 2205/2300]
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** [https://www.ecalc.ch/xcoptercalc.php?ecalc&lang=en&cooling=medium&rotornumber=4&config=flat&frame=210&tiltlimit=90&weight=500&calc=auw&elevation=500&airtemp=25&qnh=1013&batteries=0&battcap=1300&battri=0.0107&battv=3.7&battccont=75&battcmax=130&battweight=38&chargestate=0&s=4&p=1&battdisc=0.85&esc=0&esccont=25&escmax=45&escri=0.006&escweight=15&motor=cobra&acci=1&type=0&motorkv=2345&motorio=1.57&motorvio=16.09&motorlimit=450&motorlimittype=w&motorri=0.084&motorlength=23&motorpoles=14&motorweight=28.5&gear=1&propeller=hqprop&diameter=5&pitch=4&blades=3&project=RacingQuad2017 QAV210, TBS Powercube 2in1 and FPvision w/ TBS Silk 2306/2345]
 
** FT Mini Arrow [https://ecalc.ch/motorcalc.php?ecalc&lang=en&cooling=good&motornumber=1&weight=370&calc=auw&warea=16.6&elevation=500&airtemp=25&qnh=1013&batteries=0&battcap=850&battri=0.0129&battv=3.7&battccont=65&battcmax=100&battweight=24&chargestate=0&s=3&p=1&battdisc=0.85&esc=max_20a&motor=emax&type=31|mt2204-ii-2300&gear=1&propeller=graupner_e_prop&diameter=6&pitch=3&blades=2&speed=0&project=FT] [https://flitetest.com/articles/ft-mighty-mini-arrow-build]
 
** FT Mini Arrow [https://ecalc.ch/motorcalc.php?ecalc&lang=en&cooling=good&motornumber=1&weight=370&calc=auw&warea=16.6&elevation=500&airtemp=25&qnh=1013&batteries=0&battcap=850&battri=0.0129&battv=3.7&battccont=65&battcmax=100&battweight=24&chargestate=0&s=3&p=1&battdisc=0.85&esc=max_20a&motor=emax&type=31|mt2204-ii-2300&gear=1&propeller=graupner_e_prop&diameter=6&pitch=3&blades=2&speed=0&project=FT] [https://flitetest.com/articles/ft-mighty-mini-arrow-build]
 
** TinyWhoop Carbon Fiber / Aluminum frame, NewBeeDrone FC and Gold Motors
 
** TinyWhoop Carbon Fiber / Aluminum frame, NewBeeDrone FC and Gold Motors
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** Oldies: IMRC Vortex 285
 
** microquads (cx10, hubsan x4), more to come!
 
** microquads (cx10, hubsan x4), more to come!
 
** [https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLaKTy-9q6D6XRkBdq80tXHsMgttUgOwLD Videos]
 
** [https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLaKTy-9q6D6XRkBdq80tXHsMgttUgOwLD Videos]
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== Safety ==
 
== Safety ==
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* Safety guide of the swiss federation of aeromodelism: http://modellflug.ch/documents/Safety%20Kompendium_F.pdf
 
* ALWAYS remove propellers when working on your quad, no exception
 
* ALWAYS remove propellers when working on your quad, no exception
 
* Disable motor stop (motor spinning when there's minimum input) so you know when your quad is armed
 
* Disable motor stop (motor spinning when there's minimum input) so you know when your quad is armed
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[[Image:hb3_frequences.png|400px|right]]
 
[[Image:hb3_frequences.png|400px|right]]
  
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=== Frequency bands ===
 
  
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<table border=1>
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=== Frequency bands ===
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<tr>
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  <th>Band</th>
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  <th>No License</th>
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  <th>HB3 License</th>
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  <th>HB9 License</th>
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  <th>Notes</th>
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</tr>
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<tr>
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  <td>431 - 433 MHz</td>
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  <td>Forbidden</td>
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  <td>50 W</td>
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  <td>1000 W</td>
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  <td></td>
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</tr>
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<tr>
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  <td>433 - 435 MHz</td>
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  <td>Forbidden</td>
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  <td>50 W</td>
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  <td>1000 W</td>
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−
  <td></td>
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</tr>
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<tr>
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  <td>435 - 437 MHz</td>
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  <td>Forbidden</td>
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  <td>50 W</td>
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  <td>1000 W</td>
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  <td></td>
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</tr>
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<tr>
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  <td>2300 - 2450 MHz</td>
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  <td></td>
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  <td></td>
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  <td>[http://www.ofcomnet.ch/cgi-bin/rir.pl?id=1101;nb=15 100 W]</td>
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  <td></td>
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</tr>
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<tr>
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  <td>2400 - 2483.5 MHz</td>
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  <td>[http://www.ofcomnet.ch/cgi-bin/rir.pl?id=1010;nb=01 100 mW]</td>
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  <td></td>
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  <td></td>
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  <td>ISM Band</td>
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</tr>
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<tr>
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  <td>5470 - 5725 MHz</td>
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  <td>[http://www.ofcomnet.ch/cgi-bin/rir.pl?id=1010;nb=04 500 mW (1 W with TPC)]</td>
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  <td></td>
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  <td></td>
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  <td></td>
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</tr>
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</table>
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Source: http://www.bakom.admin.ch/themen/frequenzen/00652/00753/index.html?lang=en#HF2400M
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* Up to date information on what we can use at which power: https://www.ofcomnet.ch/api/rir/1008
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Source: [http://www.bakom.admin.ch/themen/frequenzen/00689/01560/index.html?lang=fr&download=NHzLpZeg7t,lnp6I0NTU042l2Z6ln1ae2IZn4Z2qZpnO2Yuq2Z6gpJCDdXx3g2ym162epYbg2c_JjKbNoKSn6A-- Prescriptions concernant les radioamateurs]
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* We can't use R1, R2, R7, R8 !
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* 2.4 GHz 100mW
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* 868 MHz 25mW
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* 5.8 GHz 25mW
  
 
=== Avoiding IMD ===
 
=== Avoiding IMD ===
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== Spots and Maps ==
 
== Spots and Maps ==
 
* http://map.drohnenverband.ch/ [CH]
 
* http://map.drohnenverband.ch/ [CH]
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* http://fpv-spots.com/ [CH, DE]
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* <s>http://fpv-spots.com/ [CH, DE]</s>
 
* http://airshoot.ch/les-mini-drones/carte-de-la-suisse-pour-les-dronistes/ [CH]
 
* http://airshoot.ch/les-mini-drones/carte-de-la-suisse-pour-les-dronistes/ [CH]
 
* http://rcfly.ch/fpv-karte-schweiz/ [CH]
 
* http://rcfly.ch/fpv-karte-schweiz/ [CH]
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* Swiss Nationals race: http://swissdronenationals.ch/
 
* Swiss Nationals race: http://swissdronenationals.ch/
 
* http://swissrotorsports.ch/
 
* http://swissrotorsports.ch/
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* Race in Suisse Romande: https://www.facebook.com/FPV-Race-Cup-Festival-888713247908956/
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* Swiss Indoor Masters
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* Vullierens
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* FPV Race Cup (never happened) https://www.facebook.com/FPV-Race-Cup-Festival-888713247908956/
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* Calendar
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** https://fpvrabbits.ch/fpv-race-kalender
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** https://fpvracer.ch/event/
  
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=== FPV Teams ===
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=== Groups ===
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* https://fpv.fixme.ch
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* http://www.meetup.com/Lausanne-Drone-Meetup/ Lausanne (networking)
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* https://www.facebook.com/teamWWS Arc lémanique
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* FPV Racers in Switzerland on Facebook
 
* FPV Racers in Switzerland on Facebook
 
** https://www.facebook.com/groups/1912261045666308/ FPV Suisse Romande
 
** https://www.facebook.com/groups/1912261045666308/ FPV Suisse Romande
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** https://www.facebook.com/FPV-racer-SWISS-Romande-687239488078185/ FPV Racer Swiss Romande (peu actif)
 
** https://www.facebook.com/FPV-racer-SWISS-Romande-687239488078185/ FPV Racer Swiss Romande (peu actif)
 
** https://www.facebook.com/groups/fpvschweiz/
 
** https://www.facebook.com/groups/fpvschweiz/
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* Team website
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* Teams
 
** http://www.fpvracerschweiz.ch/
 
** http://www.fpvracerschweiz.ch/
 
** https://fpvrabbits.ch/
 
** https://fpvrabbits.ch/
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** https://fpv.fixme.ch
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** https://www.facebook.com/teamWWS
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** FPVM
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** https://www.facebook.com/FPVBern/ FPVBern
 
* Maps
 
* Maps
 
** https://drive.google.com/open?id=1OddkI1Gx44BA_HbYjFeDi-ejsZQ&usp=sharing Suisse Romande
 
** https://drive.google.com/open?id=1OddkI1Gx44BA_HbYjFeDi-ejsZQ&usp=sharing Suisse Romande
 
** https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=zUsprPpYxjGw.kQIl4Gnf2OZI Suisse
 
** https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=zUsprPpYxjGw.kQIl4Gnf2OZI Suisse
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* Event calendar https://fpvrabbits.ch/fpv-race-kalender
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* http://www.meetup.com/Lausanne-Drone-Meetup/ Lausanne (networking)
  
 
=== Association/GAM ===
 
=== Association/GAM ===
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* http://www.gambournens.ch/ Lausanne
 
* http://www.gambournens.ch/ Lausanne
 
* https://www.dracer.ch/
 
* https://www.dracer.ch/
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* http://aeropoly.ch
  
 
=== Commercial/Divers ===
 
=== Commercial/Divers ===
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== Guides ==
 
== Guides ==
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* Ultimate shopping list (Joshua Bardwell) https://www.fpvknowitall.com/ultimate-fpv-shopping-list
 
* Bench tests of miniquads hardware http://www.miniquadtestbench.com/
 
* Bench tests of miniquads hardware http://www.miniquadtestbench.com/
 
* Learning to fly FPV, tips and tricks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXe6pPf2fXI
 
* Learning to fly FPV, tips and tricks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXe6pPf2fXI
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* https://youtu.be/gRSPFYlKo58 How to build Retracts for Quadcopters/multirotors
 
* https://youtu.be/gRSPFYlKo58 How to build Retracts for Quadcopters/multirotors
 
* Focus your camera using a pattern, http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2516950
 
* Focus your camera using a pattern, http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2516950
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* How to store your lipo https://www.tested.com/art/makers/824939-how-safely-organize-your-lipo-battery-storage/
  
 
=== ESC ===
 
=== ESC ===
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=== PIDs ===
 
=== PIDs ===
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* [[multicopter_tuning]]
 
* PID by MrSteele:
 
* PID by MrSteele:
 
** Explained (Part 1): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZ5GFjmD9f0
 
** Explained (Part 1): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZ5GFjmD9f0
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* http://www.airsanglier.com/2016/04/tuning-pid-pousser-votre-machine-aux-limites/
 
* http://www.airsanglier.com/2016/04/tuning-pid-pousser-votre-machine-aux-limites/
 
* https://github.com/betaflight/betaflight/wiki/PID-Tuning-Guide
 
* https://github.com/betaflight/betaflight/wiki/PID-Tuning-Guide
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* Regler ses PID, la methode Damien Gans https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAN1zBjHQvA
  
 
=== Racing ===
 
=== Racing ===
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** https://www.premiairmedia.ch/shop/
 
** https://www.premiairmedia.ch/shop/
 
** https://www.eflight.ch/
 
** https://www.eflight.ch/
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** https://www.fpvframe.ch/
 
* Other, mostly RTF or planes, heli
 
* Other, mostly RTF or planes, heli
 
** http://helimodel.ch/ helicopter, parts, nice choice
 
** http://helimodel.ch/ helicopter, parts, nice choice
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== See Also ==
 
== See Also ==
  
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* [[multicopter_tuning]]
 
* [[Tinywhoop1]]
 
* [[Tinywhoop1]]
 
* [[5th_Anniversary]]
 
* [[5th_Anniversary]]
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* [[Carbon_fiber]]
 
* [[Carbon_fiber]]
 
* [[EuropeanMakerWeek2016]]
 
* [[EuropeanMakerWeek2016]]
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* [[DroneIRL]]

Latest revision as of 17:16, 25 March 2019

Information

  • In the hobby, you don't say "drone", you'd rather say: multicopter, multirotor, quadcopter, hexacopter, fixed wing, etc etc

Multicopter at FIXME

Activities

Team

FMD.png FFT.svg Fft-nemen.jpg Fft2.svg

People&Multicopter

Tracks

  • Some design ideas for tracks
  • we currently have 3 working gates
  • Track 1

Track1.svg

Safety

Legislation

No fly zone (maps)

Other

Radio

Hb9 frequences.png
Hb3 frequences.png


Frequency bands

Avoiding IMD

  • Evenly spaced channel can create intermodulation distortion (IMD)
  • Here an example of channels with more 40-50MHz separation which allow to theoricaly avoid such problem
Frequency 5645 5685 5740 5806 5860 5945
Channel E4 E2 F1 R5 F7 E8

with E=Boscam E, F=Fatshark ImRC, R=Raceband

Spots and Maps

Groups in Switzerland

Races

Groups

Association/GAM

Commercial/Divers

Guides

ESC

PDB

  • Powercube PDB v1/v2 pinout (from left to right, up side up)
    • VTX: Video, Audio, Ground, Power
    • CAM: Audio, Power, Ground, Video

Flight Controller

Battery

Chargeur / Charger

  • TURNIGY P405 : simple d'utilisation 
1/ Alimenter le chargeur / Power On the charger
2/ Sélectionner le type de batterie le touche Type (> 3s pour changer de selection) / Select the battery Type in pressing on the Type Key
3/ Changer le courant avec les touches display et start -> recommander: choisir la valeur batterie / Change the current 
4/ Presser sur Start et attendre / Press on Start Key and wait

Parallel charging

  • Don't charge batteries that have a lot of difference in tension (+10%) as too much current will from from one to an other more than the battery can hold
  • Don't charge batteries with different cell count (4 cells with 3 cells)
  1. Check all batteries with a LiPo checkers
  2. Order them by tension, group them accordingly
  3. Before charging, plug all the batteries on the parallel board WITHOUT the balance plug. When the batteries equalize, some important current can flow through them, the balance plug may burn if the board is not current limited
  4. Start charging and look at the cells tension to see they are all pretty much the same (~1-2V)
  5. Monitor the whole process, never charge unattended
  • Regularly check batteries temperature, in case of any sign of heat, turn off the charger immediately
  • In case of smoke, remove the charger from power immediately
  • Don't spray water, you can use dirt or sand to limit propagation of fire or a proper CO2 (ABCD) fire extinguisher

PIDs

Racing

RSSI with FrSky

  • Most recents FrSky receivers (XM+, XSR, ...) have RSSI output on Channel 16
    • Very good to have RSSI forwarded to Betaflight OSD or other OSD compatible with PWM RSSI input from the receiver
    • No soldering required from the receiver to the FC/OSD !
  • Use this command in the CLI to configure Betaflight to access RSSI, be sure to have the latest version of Betaflight, it varied accross version.
 set max_aux_channels = 12 #12+4 = 16 channels
 set rssi_channel = 16
 save
  • You can find official firmware with output on Channel 8 as well (look for RSSI8 or RSSI16)
    • Usefull for the TBS Core Pro/FPVision which only allow RSSI input from channels 1-10 (no configuration needed in BF)

Failsafe with FrSky

  • It's very very important to set the failsafe of the receiver correctly
  • By default it'll retain the last value of all channels, thus contuying on its course and prevent the fc to enter failsafe
  • Procedure:
    • Bind the receiver (bind mode on tx, turn on rx with the button pressed, turn off everything)
    • turn on the rx only, press the button once

Radiocommande / Remote Control

Calculators

Simulator

Multicopter

Plane, wing

Shops

Switzerland

International

See Also

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